Which email client do you use?

[phenomlab]

Also tried eMClient v10 - same issue - does not work with a VPN. I find it literally staggering that eMClient continue to push really bad advice like disabling the VPN altogether so their product works! If it were the VPN at fault, then other applications such as Thunderbird and Outlook etc wouldn’t work either - yet they do.

[Madchatthew]

@phenomlab It is easy to point the finger at someone/something else rather than taking the time to figure out what the actual problem might be.

[phenomlab]

@Madchatthew Yeah, I mean, what sort of advice is that? They are serious too! Every single email client I’ve ever used works absolutely fine over a VPN - except eMClient. This isn’t the first time this issue has been raised either - it’s a constant question and they they bat it back with the same response.

For example, this “advice” is flat out wrong - in fact, it’s complete rubbish

VPN’s do not block email clients - and if they do, you are using the wrong one!

[Madchatthew]

@phenomlab Yeah that is horrible advise and honestly can’t believe that that is their solution. Would make me not even want to use their email client.

[DownPW]

@phenomlab said in Which email client do you use?:

@DownPW I’ve just started looking at Mailbird for my own personal usage. I have several accounts, so would need a Premium license (wouldn’t you know it’s the most expensive). Whilst I like the concept, do I like it enough to pay the somewhat inflated costs…

A conumdrum.

I don’t know, I can’t help you much with that. It’s one of the rare licenses that I actually pay for. In any case, for my part and the use I make of it with multi-accounts, I like it.

But i have not test with VPN !!

[phenomlab]

@DownPW mailbird, like virtually every other email client works fine behind a VPN. It seems eMClient is the exception, but trading in or sacrificing any level of security in the name of a software package is a non starter in my view.

[phenomlab]

@Madchatthew said in Which email client do you use?:

Would make me not even want to use their email client.

Absolutely enough to put me off also.

[phenomlab]

Circling back here - admittedly, with my tail between my legs. I’ve been through literally every single email client I can think of, and whilst Outlook works, it doesn’t have a unified mailbox (although the Android and iPhone versions do), and this is something of a show-stopper for me.

Years ago, when I had only one email account to manage, life was simple and you could use webmail without issue. However, times do change, and I’m now in a position where I need to monitor numerous accounts constantly, and flipping between webmail apps is not an option anymore.

I don’t have time to scan through multiple inboxes either, and so would need a unified mailbox. I tried Canary Mail, and this also does not work if you have the VPN running locally on the machine - same as eMClient.

I’ve installed eMClient again, and stopped the machine level VPN (my preference), but enabled the browser extension so at least my internet activity is secured, but I can still use the app. I know this goes against all the principles I raised earlier, but the app is superior in every way, and easily the best I’ve found so far. Besides, I’d have to disable the VPN at machine level for the push notifications to work, as I’ve mentioned here

https://sudonix.org/topic/665/planned-sunset-of-ntfy-plugin

[phenomlab]

I stumbled across a mail client called Edison last night. It’s really well written with a great design, has a unified mailbox, and is extremely quick. I’ve installed this on my Android device, and there’s also a version for Windows.

It’s completely free, and I’d strongly encourage you to give it a try

https://www.edisonmail.com/

It also has several AI enabled components by default and goes well beyond the free barrier. There is also a “plus” offering which is paid for, but that does not impose any restrictions on the app’s functionality.

[DownPW]

oh yes very good. I will test it

[Madchatthew]

@phenomlab Very nice, I will have to check that out as well

[JAC]

@phenomlab looks smart! Would this work with my Proton email accounts?

[Madchatthew]

I wonder if they are going to make a linux version of this?

[phenomlab]

@JAC i expect so, but haven’t tried myself.

[phenomlab]

@Madchatthew I wondered the same. The windows version, although great does seem to lack some functionality in comparison to the mobile client.

Clearly it’s developed as mobile first, and that makes sense. I think the windows version is still evolving and will improve over time, but it’s already extremely capable in its current format.

There’s a mac version so perhaps a Linux client is on the horizon.

[phenomlab]

I’m curious too know if anyone else has tried the Edison Mail client on their phone? I’ve been using it for about a week now and absolutely love it.

[Madchatthew]

@phenomlab In this day and age, it seems if you aren’t using the mobile first model, then you are already behind the game. Especially now that pretty much everyone has a handheld computer in their back pocket these days. Even for apps that are meant to be used soley on a desktop. You know that at some point in the future people are going to want to use it on a mobile device, so having to go back and redo some or all of that layout takes a lot of time.

@phenomlab said in Which email client do you use?:

There’s a mac version so perhaps a Linux client is on the horizon.

This has always been my thought, that all these apps that are made for Mac should be able to be just as easily made for linux. We maybe easily is stretching it, but not as hard maybe is a better way of putting it. It seems like now days, linux is picking up more in popularity, especially with all the computers out there that won’t be able to run windows 11 but are still good fast computers. Microsoft is so dumb. Well maybe smart dumb.

[phenomlab]

@Madchatthew said in Which email client do you use?:

This has always been my thought, that all these apps that are made for Mac should be able to be just as easily made for linux

Why not - given that MAC is basically Linux in a very expensive suit - based on OpenBSD.

[Madchatthew]

@phenomlab yes exactly! How hard would it be for them to push out a linux version of their app. Even if you had to build it from source and install it.

[phenomlab]

@Madchatthew I’m guessing it would be even simpler to create a PWA, although having said that, you’d lose the client functionality altogether making it almost useless!