Skip to content

Wasting time on a system that hangs on boot

Blog
3 2 969 1
  • For a while now, my dual boot system (Windows, which I use for work, and KDE Neon which I use primarily) had been exhibiting issues in the sense that when I elected to start Neon, the system would hang during boot for 3-4 minutes and only display the below before finally showing the SDDM login

    IMG_20211018_190033~2.jpg

    Then, when you did actually get to login, the system would then hang for another two minutes before the desktop was displayed. And to add insult to injury, you couldn’t interact with the system for another 45 seconds !

    Frustrating - VERY frustrating 🤬

    As I’d recently made the system dual boot for work and home usage, I thought that the bios could be at fault here, so after some research, I went ahead and upgraded that. Unsurprisingly, the bios was pretty out of date. I’m no fan of bleeding edge when it comes to motherboard firmware, and will only upgrade if there is a genuine requirement. Besides, it’s pretty easy to brick a system by flashing with an incorrect bios which will leave you with a machine that won’t start at all.

    The bios upgrade went well, but certainly contributed nothing to resolving the issue at hand. Windows booted perfectly with no issues at all, but KDE ? No dice. Same issue. After googling the message displayed just before SDDM started, there were literally hundreds of posts ranging from bios to display driver updates.

    Undeterred (well, perhaps a bit disheartened) I started trawling though multiple posts trying to perhaps identify the Holy Grail. After a couple of hours of fruitless searching, I gave up. After all, KDE would actually boot, but not without significant delay. I could live with that (well, not really, but I’m the absence of a fix, I was going to have to put up with it).

    Later in the week, I decided to clean the desk in my office meaning I needed to unplug everything so I could clear the area. After cleaning, I reconnected everything and powered the system back on. KDE was set as the default in the bootloader, so was the first choice - and it booted cleanly without errors and within the usual 5 seconds!

    Ok. WTF. Somewhat perplexed at why this issue had suddenly “cured itself”, I decided to have a look at the connections. For a long time, I’ve had a USB cable from the back of the PC into my monitor so I can extend the USB ports I have and at the same time, make them more accessible (rather then having to climb on the desk just to connect a new device).

    I realized that this was one lead I hadn’t connected. Curious, I shutdown the PC and then reconnected the cable. On boot, sure enough, a long delay and KDE started. I shutdown again and removed this cable. On power on, no issues and KDE boots in 5 seconds!

    So after all that, it turns out it’s just a b****y lead 🤬🤬 and I’ve spent ages looking for a “fix” when there actually isn’t one from the software perspective. I replaced the cable, and we’re all good. I really have no idea why Windows doesn’t complain though - and I certainly don’t have the energy to spend hours researching that!

  • For a while now, my dual boot system (Windows, which I use for work, and KDE Neon which I use primarily) had been exhibiting issues in the sense that when I elected to start Neon, the system would hang during boot for 3-4 minutes and only display the below before finally showing the SDDM login

    IMG_20211018_190033~2.jpg

    Then, when you did actually get to login, the system would then hang for another two minutes before the desktop was displayed. And to add insult to injury, you couldn’t interact with the system for another 45 seconds !

    Frustrating - VERY frustrating 🤬

    As I’d recently made the system dual boot for work and home usage, I thought that the bios could be at fault here, so after some research, I went ahead and upgraded that. Unsurprisingly, the bios was pretty out of date. I’m no fan of bleeding edge when it comes to motherboard firmware, and will only upgrade if there is a genuine requirement. Besides, it’s pretty easy to brick a system by flashing with an incorrect bios which will leave you with a machine that won’t start at all.

    The bios upgrade went well, but certainly contributed nothing to resolving the issue at hand. Windows booted perfectly with no issues at all, but KDE ? No dice. Same issue. After googling the message displayed just before SDDM started, there were literally hundreds of posts ranging from bios to display driver updates.

    Undeterred (well, perhaps a bit disheartened) I started trawling though multiple posts trying to perhaps identify the Holy Grail. After a couple of hours of fruitless searching, I gave up. After all, KDE would actually boot, but not without significant delay. I could live with that (well, not really, but I’m the absence of a fix, I was going to have to put up with it).

    Later in the week, I decided to clean the desk in my office meaning I needed to unplug everything so I could clear the area. After cleaning, I reconnected everything and powered the system back on. KDE was set as the default in the bootloader, so was the first choice - and it booted cleanly without errors and within the usual 5 seconds!

    Ok. WTF. Somewhat perplexed at why this issue had suddenly “cured itself”, I decided to have a look at the connections. For a long time, I’ve had a USB cable from the back of the PC into my monitor so I can extend the USB ports I have and at the same time, make them more accessible (rather then having to climb on the desk just to connect a new device).

    I realized that this was one lead I hadn’t connected. Curious, I shutdown the PC and then reconnected the cable. On boot, sure enough, a long delay and KDE started. I shutdown again and removed this cable. On power on, no issues and KDE boots in 5 seconds!

    So after all that, it turns out it’s just a b****y lead 🤬🤬 and I’ve spent ages looking for a “fix” when there actually isn’t one from the software perspective. I replaced the cable, and we’re all good. I really have no idea why Windows doesn’t complain though - and I certainly don’t have the energy to spend hours researching that!

    @phenomlab That sounds really annoying.
    But whatever was wrong with the lead, the OS should not respond like that.
    So faulty USB device or not, you could argue it is an OS bug in a way.
    Why do you prefer to use KDE Linux distro, over say Ubuntu?

  • @phenomlab That sounds really annoying.
    But whatever was wrong with the lead, the OS should not respond like that.
    So faulty USB device or not, you could argue it is an OS bug in a way.
    Why do you prefer to use KDE Linux distro, over say Ubuntu?

    @Panda said in Wasting time on a system that hangs on boot:

    Why do you prefer to use KDE Linux distro, over say Ubuntu?

    A matter of taste really. I’ve tried pretty much every Linux distro out there over the years, and whilst I started with Ubuntu, I used Linux mint for a long time also. All of them are Debian backed anyway 😁

    I guess I feel in love with KDE (Neon) because of the amount of effort they’d gone to in relation to the UI.

    I agree about the lead and the OS statement which is why I suspect that Windows simply ignored it (although the Device also worked fine there, so it clearly wasn’t that faulty)


Related Topics
  • Windows 10 End of Life

    General windows linux arch end of life
    10
    2 Votes
    10 Posts
    1k Views
    @phenomlab this looks very nice as well. It is nice that they keep the KDE Neon a rolling release so you will get those updated apps even though Ubuntu isn’t a rolling release. Is it a rolling distro? KDE neon is rolling for KDE software. The Ubuntu base OS is not, but certain packages will be updated as needed to support KDE software requiring newer library versions than what is provided by Ubuntu. Apps from the main repositories are not rolling either, and therefore can be up to two years old. Users are encouraged not to use them, and to instead get apps from Snap or Flatpak using KDE’s Discover app store. In neon, Discover is set up to only show apps from these sources, filtering out apps from the repositories.
  • 2 Votes
    7 Posts
    6k Views
    That is like saying to a robber and murderer, hey come on in here and take all my things and by the way before you leave go ahead and stab me in the chest.
  • 1 Votes
    22 Posts
    4k Views
    @DownPW Very tiring. Seems to happen more often than not.
  • Arch Server Progress

    Chitchat arch linux server web server
    58
    28 Votes
    58 Posts
    9k Views
    @phenomlab That is awesome! With that bundle, can you have add-ons that people can check that will only show up when they choose a specific product? Can you also have a terms and conditions popup before they check out and if they don’t check it it won’t let them checkout but will let them save their cart? Sorry for all the questions. I looked into some of those things and I would need to purchase a plugin that is over 100 dollars for the addons and the terms and conditions one cost money as well. So if those things are included in that bundle, then that is an amazing price for all of that.
  • Linux Certification

    Linux linux certs
    4
    2 Votes
    4 Posts
    800 Views
    @Madchatthew You might be sorry you asked This is the mentoring category below. Presently, it’s unused, but we have a dedicated area for it. https://sudonix.org/category/8/mentoring Other services https://sudonix.org/services
  • 5 Votes
    14 Posts
    2k Views
    @phenomlab we are okay with it at this moment but this is what i see [image: 1647597868053-5084e54f-ab2a-4c3a-b76c-1b7ba0ff134f-image.png] @phenomlab said in Windows 11 doesn't support AMD processors...: GEO block true when i load using CF VPN it loads fastly
  • 1 Votes
    1 Posts
    827 Views
    No one has replied
  • Environment Variables

    Solved Linux
    8
    1
    1 Votes
    8 Posts
    2k Views
    @madchatthew great you got this to work ! Thanks for the update.