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Which email client do you use?

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  • On further evaluating eMClient, it appears this does not work with NordVPN. This is a real pity - so you’d need to make a conscious decision to sacrifice security in the name of getting access to the mail client. Not something I’m willing to do sadly.

    What makes this much worse is that the eMClient devs just tell you to turn off the VPN if you want to use their product! Yet, Outlook, Betterbird/Thunderbird, Mailbird etc all work fine with NordVPN.

    This lacklustre approach to security means I can’t use eMClient. A potential “solution” to this is to use the NordVPN browser extension rather than the Windows client, but that just means you’re only protecting the browser traffic and nothing else.

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    How is this an acceptable response from a software vendor who charges to use their app?

  • @phenomlab You can change CSS settings for Thunderbird and can use it.

  • @crazycells Yes, I know. I’m working on it now 🙂

  • @phenomlab I use two email clients… I tried to use a single one, but it was not possible due to my “clean inbox” strategy that I adopted over the years… so I use Apple Mail and Thunderbird…

    I -also- have many separate email addresses (ashamed to write it down the count 🤣 )… I combine all important ones under Apple Mail… And these are important personal and work emails and I keep this inbox clean (as much as possible). I read the email (if nothing needs to be done, archieve it) and tag it… When I am done, I archieve it… And I tag it if necessary…

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    And I mainly use Thunderbird for my two separate outlook/hotmail accounts… These are for “spammy” or frequent unimportant emails… Unfortunately there is no way for me to get away from them. So, for these email accounts, I do not even display the number of emails on the client, because it is full of spam that I will not read … I use outlook account for this purpose because Microsoft sucks at identifying real/spam emails…

  • just to be clear… I tag it and archieve it, because I realized that if I do not do that, I keep reading the same emails over and over during the day and remember what it was, and overall delay them, so this makes it more efficient timewise…

    when I have time, I go over my “red” action needed flags first…

  • @crazycells said in Which email client do you use?:

    because Microsoft sucks at identifying real/spam emails…

    Isn’t that the truth.

  • Something of an update here. I decided to install Betterbird to see what it had to offer over Thunderbird, and landed up playing with the interface to see if I could get it to something resembling what I’d consider workable.

    The end result surprised me. I managed to get the appearance I liked, and along with some minor tweaks and add ons, I was also able to obtain the functionality I needed.

    I’ll stick with this for a while and see how it goes, but so far, it looks promising.

  • Been using Betterbird for a couple of days now, and it’s starting to win me over…

  • Outlook is the best one for business man i think 🙂

  • @cagatay Agreed on the business front given the update of Office365, although what about for usage at a personal level?

  • i have not see anyone in Turkey who has a personal email account and use ist actively.
    We use our personel emails when registering with banks, shopping stores and e commerce web sites.
    For this reason, people do not care which email client they use.
    This is usually the email client offered by the phones they use.

  • @cagatay said in Which email client do you use?:

    i have not see anyone in Turkey who has a personal email account and use ist actively.

    Really? That sounds quite odd to be honest, but I’ll take your word for it! I think literally everyone these days has a personal email account they use all the time - I know I do!


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    @crazycells yes, I think it certainly has a place - but to enrich knowledge, rather than simply substitute it.

    I remember years ago when I did my exams. You weren’t allowed a calculator or anything like that and had to show your workings on a separate piece of paper which you were given additional marks for.

    These days, they use iPads etc in schools, so the art of writing a letter or needing to perform mathematical calculations in your head is gone. One of my very first jobs was in a newsagent who had a really old till (yes, not a Point-Of-Service like you have today) - all this till did was add up the individual figures, but didn’t tell you how much change to give - you had to do that part.

    Sounds simple enough, but with technology doing everything for us these days, our basic skills (think the “Three R’s”, and see example below) have taken a back seat and I think that’s made us lazy.

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    Again, my point here being to enrich - not completely replace basic skills we learn as we age.

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    @phenomlab said in is my DMARC configured correctly?:

    you’ll get one from every domain that receives email from yours.

    Today I have received another mail from outlook DMARC, i was referring to your reply again and found it very helpful/informative. thanks again.

    I wish sudonix 100 more great years ahead!