installing flarum with plesk

[phenomlab]

@Hari yes. Take my advice and avoid Plesk. It’s sh**. Can’t be much plainer than that.

[Hari]

@phenomlab the php 8 CLI

[phenomlab]

@Hari that will work every time but you still need the full path to the php binary

[Hari]

@phenomlab sure, i want to run this little software with light tools - are there any other alternatives?

someone is doing like this https://discuss.flarum.org/d/30211-gtmetrix-grade-and-stats-on-flarum/2 is it a good practice?

i don’t think this bare bones kind of process is good for newbies

[phenomlab]

@Hari with Linux, less is more. You should pay attention to the advice offered by @justoverclock here

https://discuss.flarum.org/d/30211-gtmetrix-grade-and-stats-on-flarum/10

In VirtualMin, everything is packaged ready for you. Configuring a hardened Linux platform from scratch with little experience is very daunting and unless you are prepared to invest multiple hours researching how to get the optimum build without being willing to accept you’ll trash that same server multiple times before you get it right, then this just isn’t going to work.

[Hari]

Summery: we can install flarum easily by using pocket hold and run it, if we need any extensions we just need to mention the extension name in Plesk composer it will automatically install. but it’s hard to run SSH commands because of Plesk limitations. and installing Redis for flarum is also a complicated process

thanks a lot for being with me throughout this exercise

[phenomlab]

@Hari no problems. It’s actually easy to install Redis in Plesk, but by the same token, Plesk as a platform is geared very differently meaning there are multiple dependencies etc which can easily fail with even minor changes, meaning Plesk won’t start and your sites won’t work.

You essentially have to do things the “Plesk” way, or not at all.

[Hari]

@phenomlab hi, someone at flarum want to use flarum with plesk, after all the exercise i do want to suggest how to install flarum using plesk. the one last thing that i need to learn is running Redis and flarum together. could you tell me how to create redis using docker or any other easy way and connect it to flarum.

i want to avoid using SSH because as we know plesk is so weird running ssh commands for flarum.

[phenomlab]

@Hari

create redis using docker or any other easy way and connect it to flarum.

Why do you need to use Docker to run Redis ? For all the time I was using Flarum under Plesk, I never had to do this. Nor did I have any issues using SSH commands. Did you create a domain package in Plesk to use, or did you try to install everything as root ?

If root, then this definitely will not work.

[Hari]

@phenomlab i was using it wrong, i used root ID

Once we add domain how to login as / switch to domain user? Switching to domain user SSH will make installing flarum easy? All these days i thought using poket hold is the only easiest way to install flarum in plesk.

[phenomlab]

@Hari Yes, absolutely. In essence, you install Plesk, create the package you want to deploy (the default is fine) and then once you have added your domain, you create an associated user to go with it, and use that account to access SSH. No permissions issues etc.

If you do it as root, it’s 100% guaranteed to fail and cause severe problems with permissions. I personally would not use pocket hold. This is really designed for shared hosting with no SSH access.

A bit more detail here

https://www.eukhost.com/kb/setup-addon-domain-in-plesk-panel/

[Hari]

@phenomlab it’s around 6pm here and I was feeling lazy in bed… your reply made me to come online and deploy a droplet. Will disturb you in few minutes hope you don’t mind

[phenomlab]

@Hari No issues.

[Hari]

create the package you want to deploy (the default is fine)

once i pick plesk from marketplace it automatically created plesk . package means obsidian?

I’ve added the domain > need to update this right? @phenomlab

[phenomlab]

@Hari Yes. Sorry, by “package” I meant the allowance of disk space, memory, etc.

[Hari]

@phenomlab how can i change CLI to php8.0?

shall i leave it 7.4?

[phenomlab]

@Hari Didn’t we cover that here ?
https://sudonix.com/topic/234/installing-flarum-with-plesk/24?_=1646226322731

[Hari]

@phenomlab i just recalled as that is not an easy way

anyway, i went forward with pocket hold -
how can i connect redis now?

i don’t want to use SSH for this, i want to use doker.

while composing this i got another thought, installing bomastra redis will be complicated right? we need to provide full path of PHP for each and every command instead can we just mention the extension name in the composer file?

what is the right command to run composer command?

/opt/plesk/php/8.0/bin/php /opt/psa/var/modules/composer/composer require blomstra/flarum-redis:*

i will save that command in notes, could you suggest to me the right command to use composer, i think we need to give the right path of compser.

[phenomlab]

@Hari

i don’t want to use SSH for this, i want to use doker.

What is the fascination for Docker here ? It’s not needed, and unnecessary overhead from the overall management perspective. You just install redis in the same way as you would do normally. This is exactly the way I had one of my previous Flarum forums running.

Using pocket hold under Plesk is completely pointless and will be a nightmare to support and administer.

We’ve also mentioned the install of composer here
https://sudonix.com/topic/226/issues-getting-flarum-to-work-on-new-host/13?_=1646226835366

Based on this, you already have the info you need.

[Hari]

@phenomlab since I have seen many console errors i have asked like that regarding docker. I will try again later tomorrow.