@phenomlab Thank you. I did spend some time working on a mock up for a local restaurant. I found out after I started working on the page that they have an account with square and have their business setup on there. I was going to do some research to see what the cost of square was and compare it to what they could do if they used WooCommerce and a WooCommerce restaurant plugin as well for the menu and ordering online. I need to do that research to see if they would be better off with the cost of square or if they would come out ahead by using a webhost cost, WooCommerce and plugin cost and that is all they would need to run a site like that. I am gonna work on that today or tomorrow to see the price differences. I believe even if the WordPress site is a little more spendy, they would have complete control over their website and wouldn’t have to depend on the costs of square and be able to change and do what they want. Those would be some of the sales points that I would use. I would offer a base price to set it up for them and then do an hourly rate for updates and such. Unless they want to send me the new info and update the site for them, then I would need to come up with a monthly amount to charge and allow them so many changes a month. It would be awesome if I could get 5 to 10 customers starting out and being able to bill monthly. Then go from there.

@Panda I have the same opinion here. NextJS is a framework for react, and like angular, I was never one to simply dive off into the deep without having any real need to do so. I’m conversant with nodeJS, vanilla js, and several other languages (including PHP which I have years of experience in and developed / still maintain an application at work that was custom written by me to fulfill an audit requirement), and in all honesty, I don’t really want to spend my life learning new frameworks unless I have a need to do so. I’ve been on the nodeJS train for some time now, and given my adoption of NodeBB, this makes perfect sense. Bleeding edge is fun if you want to experiment and learn, but with so many frameworks popping up all over the place, how many do we actually need? I guess most of this really depends on unique use cases, but I’ve yet to come across an issue that meant I had to rewrite an application in a different language to resolve an issue. It’s almost like using a bulldozer to find a china cup.

@eeeee have a look at the below https://docs.nodebb.org/installing/os/ubuntu/ curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_lts.x | sudo -E bash - sudo apt-get install -y nodejs You’ll notice that we are in fact “installing” NodeJS but never actually have a need to reference it. Here’s the nodejs --version command on my dev system [image: 1681584648061-6eb1482e-0c9b-454d-aa84-199bcc845702-image.png] More detail here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030622/why-do-i-see-different-versions-of-node-and-nodejs

@Sampo2910 said in Updating Node and NPM: Is there a way I can see what the app version of Node is? Then i could install ‘up to that’ and keep an eye out for any changes? Have a look in the source code for the app you are using, or better still, look at the GitHub page which should give you an idea of the version number which is the latest. In the source code you have running, there is typically a README file which should state the version you are running.

@justoverclock Any update ? Thanks EDIT - marking as solved based on the below thread https://sudonix.com/topic/339/digitalocean-step-by-step-guide-to-nginx-configuration