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@Madchatthew Yes, exactly. A bit like encryption with “backdoors” if you like.
@phenomlab Yeah you go that right and one they can kick open anytime they see it would benefit them. Although at that point is is probably just left open all the time with a huge door stopper in it to keep it from closing haha
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@JAC I use WhatsApp because literally everyone I know uses it, and they won’t be moving over anytime soon. They don’t really care it’s a Meta product - just that it works and is very convenient. To be fair, during the pandemic, these apps came into their own and were considered critical when people couldn’t physically meet but still wanted to keep in contact with loved ones.
The plus side of WhatsApp is the native end-to-end encryption, as with Telegram. I just don’t like the idea of transmitting sensitive information over something “Meta owned” - the same applies to @Madchatthew whom I know has privacy issues with anything Google related (and I don’t blame him either).
@phenomlab Agree with all points here. Anything related to Facebook I hate with a passion unfortunately.
I have it installed on my phone but I rarely read the messages, now you may say that’s over the top but there’s even people I haven’t spoken to in years trying to get back in touch with me and I just can’t bring myself to reply
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@Madchatthew said in Text Messaging App:
Then you have these big companies that are focused on selling your information to others to stuff more money in their pockets.
And that’s the key point right there. Meta don’t exactly have the best track record when it comes to privacy.
@phenomlab said in Text Messaging App:
And that’s the key point right there. Meta don’t exactly have the best track record when it comes to privacy.
This is it, their record is awful and I for one don’t trust them. I don’t particularly trust Google either but my life is essentially stored on a Google (android) product and there is no real way to get away from that.
I guess all you can try and do is use the best practices yourself and then in your mind you may be satisfied
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@phenomlab said in Text Messaging App:
And that’s the key point right there. Meta don’t exactly have the best track record when it comes to privacy.
This is it, their record is awful and I for one don’t trust them. I don’t particularly trust Google either but my life is essentially stored on a Google (android) product and there is no real way to get away from that.
I guess all you can try and do is use the best practices yourself and then in your mind you may be satisfied
.@JAC said in Text Messaging App:
there is no real way to get away from that.
Not entirely true. Search “degoogle your life”.
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@JAC said in Text Messaging App:
there is no real way to get away from that.
Not entirely true. Search “degoogle your life”.
I try not to use Google as much as I can. I use Duckduckgo as my search engine, although generally I use an android handset on a daily basis 🤪.
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I wonder if a linux phone OS can be installed on those nothing phones? I would be interested in that and then you would be able to 100% get away from google. You would just have to make sure and not go to their site.
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I wonder if a linux phone OS can be installed on those nothing phones? I would be interested in that and then you would be able to 100% get away from google. You would just have to make sure and not go to their site.
@Madchatthew According to the below, there is Paranoid and Lineage
https://nothing.community/d/2993-your-experience-running-ubuntu-touch-on-nothing-phone
Rob Braxman also has some pretty decent videos on de-googling your phone
https://www.youtube.com/@robbraxmantech
For info, LineageOS is de-googled
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I try not to use Google as much as I can. I use Duckduckgo as my search engine, although generally I use an android handset on a daily basis 🤪.
@JAC the problem with Proton is that their “solution” to de-google your life only extends to email sadly.
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@Madchatthew According to the below, there is Paranoid and Lineage
https://nothing.community/d/2993-your-experience-running-ubuntu-touch-on-nothing-phone
Rob Braxman also has some pretty decent videos on de-googling your phone
https://www.youtube.com/@robbraxmantech
For info, LineageOS is de-googled
@phenomlab Lineage is good. No Google play or anything like that. My brother tried it a few months back on a Samsung model and now his phone cuts out mid-call. I’m sure there’s a way around it. I also have it installed on an old Samsung tablet which uses F-Droid as the app store alternative.
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@phenomlab Lineage is good. No Google play or anything like that. My brother tried it a few months back on a Samsung model and now his phone cuts out mid-call. I’m sure there’s a way around it. I also have it installed on an old Samsung tablet which uses F-Droid as the app store alternative.
@JAC said in Text Messaging App:
now his phone cuts out mid-call
That’s not a good sign at all. Doesn’t exactly instil confidence.
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@JAC the problem with Proton is that their “solution” to de-google your life only extends to email sadly.
@phenomlab they do now have Drive, Calender, Docs and are looking to create an alternative to Google wallet.
Whilst it’s not perfect, it’s a good start but truth be told I don’t think you can ever truly De-Google.
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@phenomlab they do now have Drive, Calender, Docs and are looking to create an alternative to Google wallet.
Whilst it’s not perfect, it’s a good start but truth be told I don’t think you can ever truly De-Google.
@JAC Yes, I’ve seen their product offerings. They aren’t great to be fair.
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@phenomlab For me so far they do the job. I pay for the whole package and am on the family plan. No complaints from me as of yet other than lack of Kill switch on TV apps.
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@phenomlab For me so far they do the job. I pay for the whole package and am on the family plan. No complaints from me as of yet other than lack of Kill switch on TV apps.
@JAC I find their product ranges to be very expensive if I’m honest.
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@phenomlab said in Text Messaging App:
@JAC I find their product ranges to be very expensive if I’m honest.
It is yes, I pay around £25 a month for their full suite but that’s across 6 users as it’s a family plan. When you put it like that it’s not too bad.
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@phenomlab said in Text Messaging App:
@JAC I find their product ranges to be very expensive if I’m honest.
It is yes, I pay around £25 a month for their full suite but that’s across 6 users as it’s a family plan. When you put it like that it’s not too bad.
@JAC Dived by 6 it isn’t so bad. Can you provide a link to the plan you have?
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@phenomlab sure, it’s
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