Which product is the best for VPN?
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@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Yes, I seem to recall @gotwf mentioning the same thing about Surf Shark
Having read up on various reviews it seems CyberGhost isn’t the best choice generally for streaming purposes like Netflix, iPlayer etc.
The best 3 generally seem to be Nord
Express VPN and Surfshark .I did used to have Surfshark (honestly lasted about 3 days before I got rid 🤪)but seem to remember it not being great at the time, having said that maybe I’m a little more appreciative with what to expect etc now. Maybe last time I did things incorrectly as in select wrong location etc, because it seems to come out quite well in speed tests for the price and for the general overall package.
I think I’m going to give it a second shot, you can always get your money refunded anyway up to 30 days after purchase.
Here goes…
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@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Yes, I seem to recall @gotwf mentioning the same thing about Surf Shark
Having read up on various reviews it seems CyberGhost isn’t the best choice generally for streaming purposes like Netflix, iPlayer etc.
The best 3 generally seem to be Nord
Express VPN and Surfshark .I did used to have Surfshark (honestly lasted about 3 days before I got rid 🤪)but seem to remember it not being great at the time, having said that maybe I’m a little more appreciative with what to expect etc now. Maybe last time I did things incorrectly as in select wrong location etc, because it seems to come out quite well in speed tests for the price and for the general overall package.
I think I’m going to give it a second shot, you can always get your money refunded anyway up to 30 days after purchase.
Here goes…
@JAC let us know how you get on. My subscription for Nord VPN expires in the coming months, so I’m very interested in what else is in the market.
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@JAC let us know how you get on. My subscription for Nord VPN expires in the coming months, so I’m very interested in what else is in the market.
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC let us know how you get on. My subscription for Nord VPN expires in the coming months, so I’m very interested in what else is in the market.
The top three do appear to be Nord VPN (which I found to be touch and go with streaming), Express VPN which seems to be a little bit more stable for what I use it for and performs better, then generally there’s Surf Shark which I need to try again to properly see how they compare.
Surfshark the cheapest of the three, but you can get a good deal on all if you subscribe to long deals.
I’ll update this once I’ve purchased and tested Surfshark.
Wishing you all a happy day!
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@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC let us know how you get on. My subscription for Nord VPN expires in the coming months, so I’m very interested in what else is in the market.
The top three do appear to be Nord VPN (which I found to be touch and go with streaming), Express VPN which seems to be a little bit more stable for what I use it for and performs better, then generally there’s Surf Shark which I need to try again to properly see how they compare.
Surfshark the cheapest of the three, but you can get a good deal on all if you subscribe to long deals.
I’ll update this once I’ve purchased and tested Surfshark.
Wishing you all a happy day!
@JAC said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC let us know how you get on. My subscription for Nord VPN expires in the coming months, so I’m very interested in what else is in the market.
The top three do appear to be Nord VPN (which I found to be touch and go with streaming), Express VPN which seems to be a little bit more stable for what I use it for and performs better, then generally there’s Surf Shark which I need to try again to properly see how they compare.
Surfshark the cheapest of the three, but you can get a good deal on all if you subscribe to long deals.
I’ll update this once I’ve purchased and tested Surfshark.
Wishing you all a happy day!
Testing SurfShark
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@JAC said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC let us know how you get on. My subscription for Nord VPN expires in the coming months, so I’m very interested in what else is in the market.
The top three do appear to be Nord VPN (which I found to be touch and go with streaming), Express VPN which seems to be a little bit more stable for what I use it for and performs better, then generally there’s Surf Shark which I need to try again to properly see how they compare.
Surfshark the cheapest of the three, but you can get a good deal on all if you subscribe to long deals.
I’ll update this once I’ve purchased and tested Surfshark.
Wishing you all a happy day!
Testing SurfShark
…@JAC said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC let us know how you get on. My subscription for Nord VPN expires in the coming months, so I’m very interested in what else is in the market.
The top three do appear to be Nord VPN (which I found to be touch and go with streaming), Express VPN which seems to be a little bit more stable for what I use it for and performs better, then generally there’s Surf Shark which I need to try again to properly see how they compare.
Surfshark the cheapest of the three, but you can get a good deal on all if you subscribe to long deals.
I’ll update this once I’ve purchased and tested Surfshark.
Wishing you all a happy day!
Testing SurfShark
…So far… It’s cut out a few times on the laptop, on the Nvidia Shield box it seems quite sturdy with some good security features, as for the android app it’s good but seems to still say connected for a while even if the internet is turned off.
Still testing and still very torn. The only thing is it’s a top 3 VPN so deserves to be tested further IMO.
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@JAC said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC let us know how you get on. My subscription for Nord VPN expires in the coming months, so I’m very interested in what else is in the market.
The top three do appear to be Nord VPN (which I found to be touch and go with streaming), Express VPN which seems to be a little bit more stable for what I use it for and performs better, then generally there’s Surf Shark which I need to try again to properly see how they compare.
Surfshark the cheapest of the three, but you can get a good deal on all if you subscribe to long deals.
I’ll update this once I’ve purchased and tested Surfshark.
Wishing you all a happy day!
Testing SurfShark
…So far… It’s cut out a few times on the laptop, on the Nvidia Shield box it seems quite sturdy with some good security features, as for the android app it’s good but seems to still say connected for a while even if the internet is turned off.
Still testing and still very torn. The only thing is it’s a top 3 VPN so deserves to be tested further IMO.
@JAC Interesting results. I’m actually finding glitches with NordVPN in the sense that it loses connection, then triggers the kill switch (which isn’t even active)…
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@JAC Interesting results. I’m actually finding glitches with NordVPN in the sense that it loses connection, then triggers the kill switch (which isn’t even active)…
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Interesting results. I’m actually finding glitches with NordVPN in the sense that it loses connection, then triggers the kill switch (which isn’t even active)…
That’s very strange mate, theres an option with Surfshark for the kill switch, I’ve tried enabling and disabling the feature no issues at all. Possibly something you’d have to report to Nord, although are you looking to get away from them??
You are more than welcome to use my login mate to test no problem at all, the beauty is ‘unlimited devices’.
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@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Interesting results. I’m actually finding glitches with NordVPN in the sense that it loses connection, then triggers the kill switch (which isn’t even active)…
That’s very strange mate, theres an option with Surfshark for the kill switch, I’ve tried enabling and disabling the feature no issues at all. Possibly something you’d have to report to Nord, although are you looking to get away from them??
You are more than welcome to use my login mate to test no problem at all, the beauty is ‘unlimited devices’.
@JAC I think I’ll take a look at SurfShark myself. I don’t need streaming services - just overall internet security
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@JAC I think I’ll take a look at SurfShark myself. I don’t need streaming services - just overall internet security
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC I think I’ll take a look at SurfShark myself. I don’t need streaming services - just overall internet security
No problem mate, I think I’m going to get rid of mine anyway. A quick turn around but watching something last night and it kept on buffering, switched to Express VPN and it was absolutely fine. Kept switching and testing both and same result happened each time, I seem to remember that’s why I looked for something else last time.
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@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC I think I’ll take a look at SurfShark myself. I don’t need streaming services - just overall internet security
No problem mate, I think I’m going to get rid of mine anyway. A quick turn around but watching something last night and it kept on buffering, switched to Express VPN and it was absolutely fine. Kept switching and testing both and same result happened each time, I seem to remember that’s why I looked for something else last time.
@JAC Thanks for the heads-up. I think I’ll avoid in this case. Perhaps better the devil you know
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@JAC Thanks for the heads-up. I think I’ll avoid in this case. Perhaps better the devil you know
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Thanks for the heads-up. I think I’ll avoid in this case. Perhaps better the devil you know
Absolutely seems that way Mark.
I’d like to think you would enjoy Express VPN, it’s the best I’ve found, although depends what sort of features you are after.
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@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Thanks for the heads-up. I think I’ll avoid in this case. Perhaps better the devil you know
Absolutely seems that way Mark.
I’d like to think you would enjoy Express VPN, it’s the best I’ve found, although depends what sort of features you are after.
@JAC I’m going to consider it at the very least.
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@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Thanks for the heads-up. I think I’ll avoid in this case. Perhaps better the devil you know
Absolutely seems that way Mark.
I’d like to think you would enjoy Express VPN, it’s the best I’ve found, although depends what sort of features you are after.
@JAC I’m currently looking at PureVPN
https://www.purevpn.com/order-now.php?aff=49866Reviews seem very positive
Obviously, this is the most important for me
Good 27 month deal too
Very cheap
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@JAC also looking at this
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/offer/save-now?source=Securitygen&coupon=2Y2M&brand=Securityorg&aff_sub4=3Y3M&aff_sub=Securityorg&aff_id=4943
Great reviews on Trust Pilot also
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/privateinternetaccess.comAlso seems to be the cheapest annual renewal - NordVPN for example is £30 more expensive !
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@JAC also looking at this
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/offer/save-now?source=Securitygen&coupon=2Y2M&brand=Securityorg&aff_sub4=3Y3M&aff_sub=Securityorg&aff_id=4943Great reviews on Trust Pilot also
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/privateinternetaccess.comAlso seems to be the cheapest annual renewal - NordVPN for example is £30 more expensive !
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC also looking at this
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/offer/save-now?source=Securitygen&coupon=2Y2M&brand=Securityorg&aff_sub4=3Y3M&aff_sub=Securityorg&aff_id=4943Great reviews on Trust Pilot also
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/privateinternetaccess.comAlso seems to be the cheapest annual renewal - NordVPN for example is £30 more expensive !
Hi Mark,
I’ve looked at all of them and Surfshark came out on top before all of them.
I am however tempted to give Cyberghost a try myself mate.
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@JAC Have you seen this ?
Looks quite good for the price. Might give this a spin.
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Have you seen this ?
Looks quite good for the price. Might give this a spin.
£1.75pm currently if you choose a 3 year plan it comes with an extra 3 months.
Tempted mate… It’s worth testing and if you don’t like it you can always get a full refund.
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@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Have you seen this ?
Looks quite good for the price. Might give this a spin.
£1.75pm currently if you choose a 3 year plan it comes with an extra 3 months.
Tempted mate… It’s worth testing and if you don’t like it you can always get a full refund.
@JAC said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Have you seen this ?
Looks quite good for the price. Might give this a spin.
£1.75pm currently if you choose a 3 year plan it comes with an extra 3 months.
Tempted mate… It’s worth testing and if you don’t like it you can always get a full refund.
That’s what it comes as mate…
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@JAC said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC Have you seen this ?
Looks quite good for the price. Might give this a spin.
£1.75pm currently if you choose a 3 year plan it comes with an extra 3 months.
Tempted mate… It’s worth testing and if you don’t like it you can always get a full refund.
That’s what it comes as mate…
@JAC huge discount there. I looked at this, and it’s tempting, but I’m also basing decisions around the renewal cost too. Another potential show stopper for me is the VPN being closed source. Believe it or not, open source VPN code allows the product to be fully audited meaning that the trust level increases as those using the product have the assurance that the product behaves exactly as described and isn’t doing anything nefarious with your data under the hood.
I don’t see any evidence of Cyber Ghost being open source and that worries me somewhat. The heavily discounted price is very appealing though, but on par with Private Internet Access which is open source.
This is interesting. Having checked, Private Internet Access claim to offer a three year deal
However, when you get to the checkout, that drops to two years
As far as see, the Boxcryptor product comes with the other packages also, so I don’t think that’s the “third year”. Hmm - perhaps not. Needs some clarification I think.
The Cyber Ghost deal is time limited with less then there hours remaining before it expires.
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@JAC huge discount there. I looked at this, and it’s tempting, but I’m also basing decisions around the renewal cost too. Another potential show stopper for me is the VPN being closed source. Believe it or not, open source VPN code allows the product to be fully audited meaning that the trust level increases as those using the product have the assurance that the product behaves exactly as described and isn’t doing anything nefarious with your data under the hood.
I don’t see any evidence of Cyber Ghost being open source and that worries me somewhat. The heavily discounted price is very appealing though, but on par with Private Internet Access which is open source.
This is interesting. Having checked, Private Internet Access claim to offer a three year deal
However, when you get to the checkout, that drops to two years
As far as see, the Boxcryptor product comes with the other packages also, so I don’t think that’s the “third year”. Hmm - perhaps not. Needs some clarification I think.
The Cyber Ghost deal is time limited with less then there hours remaining before it expires.
@phenomlab said in Which product is the best for VPN?:
@JAC huge discount there. I looked at this, and it’s tempting, but I’m also basing decisions around the renewal cost too. Another potential show stopper for me is the VPN being closed source. Believe it or not, open source VPN code allows the product to be fully audited meaning that the trust level increases as those using the product have the assurance that the product behaves exactly as described and isn’t doing anything nefarious with your data under the hood.
I don’t see any evidence of Cyber Ghost being open source and that worries me somewhat. The heavily discounted price is very appealing though, but on par with Private Internet Access which is open source.
This is interesting. Having checked, Private Internet Access claim to offer a three year deal
However, when you get to the checkout, that drops to two years
As far as see, the Boxcryptor product comes with the other packages also, so I don’t think that’s the “third year”. Hmm - perhaps not. Needs some clarification I think.
The Cyber Ghost deal is time limited with less then there hours remaining before it expires.
Great summary there Mark.
I’ve weighted everything up, looked at many different reviews and the one thing that appears to let IPA & Cyberghost is speeds.
There’s various results out there but none of them stack up against the top two or 3 in Nord, Express VPN & Surfshark and that’s probably why they are throwing long deals around at cheap prices.
An interesting thing just like with Surfshark, the Nord app still appears to say it’s connected even though there was no internet connection as I’d turned the WiFi off purposely to test.
Express VPN does show if it’s not connected straight away and appears to run on their own protocol called ‘Lightway’ instead of the ‘Wireguard’ protocol that all the other companies use, so that may have something to with it.
For now I will stick with Express VPN, I can say I have never had a problem with them at all, it has always been reliable.
I do need a new VPN as I’m out of licences for Express VPN, and whilst I do still have Nord for another year or so it doesn’t give me the same performance.
For example Express VPN is set to auto connect and does it perfectly, I’ve previously had Nord VPN set to auto connect when I didn’t have Express VPN (so it’s not like the two apps we’re clashing) and it let me down and you wouldn’t be connected despite the option being turned on.
Little things like that are so simple but it does make a great difference to be able to rely on something instead of thinking is it even working.
This is no an Express VPN appreciation post but more stating that it does everything right, for me anyway.
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