move out from flarum to wordpress
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@Hari I don’t think the speed issues are because of the theme, but would need to see the code to be sure. There’s likely to be several things we can do to improve performance.
However, the site is extremely slow
@phenomlab sure, this theme was developed by freshers, making a new theme using the code of this theme would be a nice idea.
maybe its loading slowly because they hardcoded the existing plugins or added more rules in the core to functions.php
either we can speed this theme or we can take code from this theme to the SiForum
do you want the entire backup or just the wp-admin logins to look into this?
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@phenomlab sure, this theme was developed by freshers, making a new theme using the code of this theme would be a nice idea.
maybe its loading slowly because they hardcoded the existing plugins or added more rules in the core to functions.php
either we can speed this theme or we can take code from this theme to the SiForum
do you want the entire backup or just the wp-admin logins to look into this?
@Hari if the site isn’t live yet, just an admin login is sufficient.
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@sinanisler one quick question, in buddy press all the replies are WordPress comments or individual posts?
@Hari my theme can work without buddypress. every post is a post and replies are comments.
your theme crazy good btw
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@phenomlab it is live, i will change the same admin2 user to admin role
@sinanisler that is a good news, wpdiscuz has these features like live commenting, reputation reward system and front end moderation like flarum. These are premium plugins are integrating into them few plugins are modified we should not update or redistribute them.
Wpdiscuz is free and all add-ons are premium.
Did you check the indicator is it working as expected?
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@phenomlab it is live, i will change the same admin2 user to admin role
@sinanisler that is a good news, wpdiscuz has these features like live commenting, reputation reward system and front end moderation like flarum. These are premium plugins are integrating into them few plugins are modified we should not update or redistribute them.
Wpdiscuz is free and all add-ons are premium.
Did you check the indicator is it working as expected?
@Hari let me know when the admin role is available, and the URL of its not the default WordPress one.
One thing that’s worth noting here is that Flarum has trademarks and intellectual property, and with the theme you have looking almost like a replica, this may cause issues with copyright infringement.
Mark Cutting also advises organisations as a Fractional CIO, Fractional CISO and Executive Advisor, helping boards improve technology governance, cyber resilience and executive decision making. Learn more at Gratmore Ltd
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@Hari let me know when the admin role is available, and the URL of its not the default WordPress one.
One thing that’s worth noting here is that Flarum has trademarks and intellectual property, and with the theme you have looking almost like a replica, this may cause issues with copyright infringement.
@phenomlab sure i will share ASAP
thanks for mentioning about the TM and IPs i thought it is open-source
nor i am interested to sell/distributing wordpress thems and i am not going to WordPress.
i was inspired by this thread
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-like-flarum/ i have a version of this too but it’s an old version of flarum.i have read a few arguments on this (TM and IPs) on flarum discuss but i don’t want to bring that to here. siForum will not conflict with the laws.
if flarum is talking about trademarks they are only registered in Sweden or Finland … but not in India.
trademarks and IPs are first come first serve basis. whoever requests they will get TM.
i am not leaving flarum and not going to make this public. let’s call it a fun/home project. i do respect their efforts and work and i will continue to be like that.
https://kjellr.com/2022/01/28/building-twitter-with-wordpress-5-9/
for example, kjellr did something similar and he won’t be getting sued by Twitter
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@phenomlab sure i will share ASAP
thanks for mentioning about the TM and IPs i thought it is open-source
nor i am interested to sell/distributing wordpress thems and i am not going to WordPress.
i was inspired by this thread
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-like-flarum/ i have a version of this too but it’s an old version of flarum.i have read a few arguments on this (TM and IPs) on flarum discuss but i don’t want to bring that to here. siForum will not conflict with the laws.
if flarum is talking about trademarks they are only registered in Sweden or Finland … but not in India.
trademarks and IPs are first come first serve basis. whoever requests they will get TM.
i am not leaving flarum and not going to make this public. let’s call it a fun/home project. i do respect their efforts and work and i will continue to be like that.
https://kjellr.com/2022/01/28/building-twitter-with-wordpress-5-9/
for example, kjellr did something similar and he won’t be getting sued by Twitter
@Hari all fine with me. Was just pointing it out. Most trademarks incidentally are just in the country where they are issued as you’ve pointed out (you’d need to won’t in each country you want it registered). I just know that Flarum in the past has come down quite hard on those who have directly copied their layout or used their logo without permission, so this is likely covered under intellectual property, which can be almost global (90 plus countries) to my knowledge if you leverage the Madrid Protocol - although I don’t think that extends to India. The logo of course is fine as you are not using it, but the layout is almost identical. I’m not sure that their trademark extend to the site design, but it might be worth checking.
I completely understand why you want it to look like Flarum because of the users being familiar with that layout and it makes absolute sense not to deviate to much away from what they are accustomed to - just be careful.
Mark Cutting also advises organisations as a Fractional CIO, Fractional CISO and Executive Advisor, helping boards improve technology governance, cyber resilience and executive decision making. Learn more at Gratmore Ltd
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@Hari all fine with me. Was just pointing it out. Most trademarks incidentally are just in the country where they are issued as you’ve pointed out (you’d need to won’t in each country you want it registered). I just know that Flarum in the past has come down quite hard on those who have directly copied their layout or used their logo without permission, so this is likely covered under intellectual property, which can be almost global (90 plus countries) to my knowledge if you leverage the Madrid Protocol - although I don’t think that extends to India. The logo of course is fine as you are not using it, but the layout is almost identical. I’m not sure that their trademark extend to the site design, but it might be worth checking.
I completely understand why you want it to look like Flarum because of the users being familiar with that layout and it makes absolute sense not to deviate to much away from what they are accustomed to - just be careful.
@phenomlab said in move out from flarum to wordpress:
Madrid Protocol
I am not going to use this theme or distribute it. it is an abandoned project (when there was no dev available to build flarum extensions for us we had to work on an alternative WordPress theme - features like guest posting, SEO changes are still big issues with flarum)
I am aware of this Madrid Protocol. they have opted for rights in their country only. (it was an a individual request exclusively valid for their own country)
https://branddb.wipo.int/branddb/en/
usually site design will not have TM or IP (as far i am aware of)
@phenomlab said in move out from flarum to wordpress:
I’m not sure that their trademark extend to the site design, but it might be worth checking.
exactly
and i am not going to use this replica
if we have to go for WordPress or react we will opt for commento.io or something else.i promise this will not go into the web. i will continue to love flarum
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@phenomlab said in move out from flarum to wordpress:
Madrid Protocol
I am not going to use this theme or distribute it. it is an abandoned project (when there was no dev available to build flarum extensions for us we had to work on an alternative WordPress theme - features like guest posting, SEO changes are still big issues with flarum)
I am aware of this Madrid Protocol. they have opted for rights in their country only. (it was an a individual request exclusively valid for their own country)
https://branddb.wipo.int/branddb/en/usually site design will not have TM or IP (as far i am aware of)
@phenomlab said in move out from flarum to wordpress:
I’m not sure that their trademark extend to the site design, but it might be worth checking.
exactly
and i am not going to use this replica
if we have to go for WordPress or react we will opt for commento.io or something else.i promise this will not go into the web. i will continue to love flarum
@Hari sounds good. Personally, I can’t use Flarum because of its fundamental lack of GDPR controls and the fact that they are using implied consent for everything.
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still, there is a lot to do, what he has done is so far good enough for a forum. it’s swift fast. 🥳
https://www.atarikafa.com/topluluk/d/unity-asset-store-nasil-kullanilir/
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@Hari all fine with me. Was just pointing it out. Most trademarks incidentally are just in the country where they are issued as you’ve pointed out (you’d need to won’t in each country you want it registered). I just know that Flarum in the past has come down quite hard on those who have directly copied their layout or used their logo without permission, so this is likely covered under intellectual property, which can be almost global (90 plus countries) to my knowledge if you leverage the Madrid Protocol - although I don’t think that extends to India. The logo of course is fine as you are not using it, but the layout is almost identical. I’m not sure that their trademark extend to the site design, but it might be worth checking.
I completely understand why you want it to look like Flarum because of the users being familiar with that layout and it makes absolute sense not to deviate to much away from what they are accustomed to - just be careful.
@phenomlab flarum didnt invented its looks open source community did like Discourse and NodeBB
I Love GPL…
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@phenomlab flarum didnt invented its looks open source community did like Discourse and NodeBB
I Love GPL…
@sinanisler I love GPL too. The logo and brand is protected by a trademark, but as you mentioned, the look and colour scheme isn’t.
Can’t say I’m a fan of the layout, which is why I always changed it
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@sinanisler I love GPL too. The logo and brand is protected by a trademark, but as you mentioned, the look and colour scheme isn’t.
Can’t say I’m a fan of the layout, which is why I always changed it
@phenomlab i love minimalism .
10 years ago I made a similar Wordpress theme for my personal code library.
this type of designs are ageless that’s why people loving it.
https://sinanisler.com/codeprex/ -
@phenomlab i love minimalism .
10 years ago I made a similar Wordpress theme for my personal code library.
this type of designs are ageless that’s why people loving it.
https://sinanisler.com/codeprex/@sinanisler wow. Love the clean look - and more importantly, the speed
Mark Cutting also advises organisations as a Fractional CIO, Fractional CISO and Executive Advisor, helping boards improve technology governance, cyber resilience and executive decision making. Learn more at Gratmore Ltd
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@sinanisler wow. Love the clean look - and more importantly, the speed
@phenomlab hi, could you check this site on mobile for us https://www.atarikafa.com/topluluk/d/hamzaless-konulari-unity-asset-store/
i am using opera on MI a2 everything is getting disturbed but in @sinanisler device the website is responsive.
https://github.com/sinanisler/SiForum/issues/28
i could not able to express this issue to him clearly, since we both can see it i thought of asking here
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@phenomlab hi, could you check this site on mobile for us https://www.atarikafa.com/topluluk/d/hamzaless-konulari-unity-asset-store/
i am using opera on MI a2 everything is getting disturbed but in @sinanisler device the website is responsive.
https://github.com/sinanisler/SiForum/issues/28
i could not able to express this issue to him clearly, since we both can see it i thought of asking here
@Hari seems fine on my mobile. What’s the issue exactly ?
Mark Cutting also advises organisations as a Fractional CIO, Fractional CISO and Executive Advisor, helping boards improve technology governance, cyber resilience and executive decision making. Learn more at Gratmore Ltd
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@phenomlab alignment issue once try this url
https://www.atarikafa.com/topluluk/d/1197-better-factorycraft-iii-pack-alpha-v10/
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@phenomlab alignment issue once try this url
https://www.atarikafa.com/topluluk/d/1197-better-factorycraft-iii-pack-alpha-v10/
@Hari yes, I see what you mean. That’s just CSS and easily fixed
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@Hari I did mention this to @sinanisler a while back. Seems he has a very high resolution in his mobile device which is why it looks fine on his.
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