AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?
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@phenomlab you know if you or I were to copy their music, we would for sure get sued for a lot of money and to cease and desist. Maybe that is what they need to do for AI and those companies that are running those AIs. Ultimately, those companies have to be feeding their AI some of that data and such in one way or another, so they should be held responsible. Or if they want to use that data, then they should need to pay royalties or something every time that set of data is accessed by someone using their AI.
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@phenomlab you know if you or I were to copy their music, we would for sure get sued for a lot of money and to cease and desist. Maybe that is what they need to do for AI and those companies that are running those AIs. Ultimately, those companies have to be feeding their AI some of that data and such in one way or another, so they should be held responsible. Or if they want to use that data, then they should need to pay royalties or something every time that set of data is accessed by someone using their AI.
@Madchatthew good points. However, I suspect that this data is being crawled anonymously, so in this case, I do wonder how enforceable a cease and desist would be.
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@Madchatthew good points. However, I suspect that this data is being crawled anonymously, so in this case, I do wonder how enforceable a cease and desist would be.
@phenomlab that makes sense that it is done anonymously. But wouldn’t the company have to tell the AI to crawl this type of data or that type of data or tell it to crawl all data type of deal? You would think that companies would be able to put that restriction on it for those purposes, but maybe not?
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@phenomlab that makes sense that it is done anonymously. But wouldn’t the company have to tell the AI to crawl this type of data or that type of data or tell it to crawl all data type of deal? You would think that companies would be able to put that restriction on it for those purposes, but maybe not?
@Madchatthew only by placing that data behind a paywall, or behind a session type such as a login.
The real issue here is the plethora of mp3 files available on public ftp servers which can easily be crawled even if the original artist declines to grant permission.
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@Madchatthew only by placing that data behind a paywall, or behind a session type such as a login.
The real issue here is the plethora of mp3 files available on public ftp servers which can easily be crawled even if the original artist declines to grant permission.
@phenomlab that makes sense
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@phenomlab that is really interesting. I read an article where they had two AIs communicate with each other and it didn’t take very long and they started making up their own language so they could communicate faster. After a while of AI doing this, those doing the experiment shut it down because they couldn’t keep up and had no clue what the AIs were communicating about. I will have to see if I can find that article.
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@phenomlab that is really interesting. I read an article where they had two AIs communicate with each other and it didn’t take very long and they started making up their own language so they could communicate faster. After a while of AI doing this, those doing the experiment shut it down because they couldn’t keep up and had no clue what the AIs were communicating about. I will have to see if I can find that article.
@Madchatthew it’s this one
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@Madchatthew it’s this one
see the first post.@phenomlab oh boy, how did I miss that LOL I always say the best place to hide something is right in front of my face
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@phenomlab i don’t trust Google or it’s AI any further than I could throw a building. I know it sounds a little hypocritical of me to say that when I use good search. I always question the results that Google’s AI displays at the top though.
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@phenomlab i don’t trust Google or it’s AI any further than I could throw a building. I know it sounds a little hypocritical of me to say that when I use good search. I always question the results that Google’s AI displays at the top though.
@Madchatthew I think everyone has used Google search without even knowing it to be honest - even those who class themselves as purists.
I too have never trusted Google. You’re not alone!
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I’m really intrigued as to how this will play out. I fully support the mother here and admire the fact she is willing to bring tech companies to account.
This will be a landmark case if she wins and will likely pave the way for other families who have also had to suffer.
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I’m really intrigued as to how this will play out. I fully support the mother here and admire the fact she is willing to bring tech companies to account.
This will be a landmark case if she wins and will likely pave the way for other families who have also had to suffer.
@phenomlab this is very awesome! They should be held accountable.
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