Virgin router replacement
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@phenomlab thanks pal, will sort when back in, probably be around 5ish.
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@phenomlab thanks pal, will sort when back in, probably be around 5ish.
@JAC Thanks. Can you also plug the powerline adapters back in so I can see what port speed it gets?
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@JAC Thanks. Can you also plug the powerline adapters back in so I can see what port speed it gets?
@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
Can you also plug the powerline adapters back in so I can see what port speed it gets?
I can do, but I donโt really use them anymore. Could this fix an issue?
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@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
Ethernet (wired) will always be faster - see below
One thing I would say is Iโve had this app on shield before, it always pretty much doubles my speed that I see off other apps.
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@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
Can you also plug the powerline adapters back in so I can see what port speed it gets?
I can do, but I donโt really use them anymore. Could this fix an issue?
@JAC Yes - 100%. Always go for wired over wireless where you can.
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@phenomlab Iโd rather buy some more and proper cables, Iโm not actually sure where theyโd be, Iโve not used them in probably over a year since Virgin gave us the pods
.If youโve any advice on the best cables and adapters to get pal?
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@phenomlab Iโd rather buy some more and proper cables, Iโm not actually sure where theyโd be, Iโve not used them in probably over a year since Virgin gave us the pods
.If youโve any advice on the best cables and adapters to get pal?
@JAC I seem to recall us having this discussion before ?
Get the below for the 1Gbps Powerline adapters
And the below for the network cables (you obviously want 2)
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@JAC I seem to recall us having this discussion before ?
Get the below for the 1Gbps Powerline adapters
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA717-KIT-Powerline-Configuration/dp/B07G37DJ8R/
And the below for the network cables (you obviously want 2)
@phenomlab thanks Mark.
Iโve just gone back through my purchases, and these are the ones I got last time - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272237603311?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=HLCeEMeeRHi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=-me6l2XtTGS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Having said that I did have two sets, Iโm sure the second set I purchased were 1gbps.
EDIT: this is the ones I have now, but itโs just two adapters the same as the one on the right hand side of the image. - Deal: Tenda PH5 AV1000 Wi-Fi Powerline Adapter Kit with Gigabit Ports, Wi-Fi Powerline Booster, Broadband/WiFi Extender, Plug and Play, Up to 300m range, for HD/3D/4K Video Streaming and Gaming, UK Plug https://amzn.eu/d/8JQn2Ox
This is more accurate - https://amzn.eu/d/6IMNts4
Tenda Wi-Fi 6 Extender Booster AX1500Mbps Dual Band Wi-Fi 6 Range Extender, Broadband/Wi-Fi Extender, Wi-Fi Booster/Hotspot with 1 Gigabit Port, Built-In Access Point Mode, Easy Setup, UK Plug (A23) https://amzn.eu/d/63A0itX
Which is better out of them or the ones you posted mate? I can try find them, but may be worth ordering them later if I canโt find them, itโs been a year and who knows with the Mrs
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@JAC I seem to recall us having this discussion before ?
Get the below for the 1Gbps Powerline adapters
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA717-KIT-Powerline-Configuration/dp/B07G37DJ8R/
And the below for the network cables (you obviously want 2)
@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
And the below for the network cables (you obviously want 2)
This is the one that arrived earlier that Iโm going to use in a minute to test on the shield. - https://amzn.eu/d/9FPWB1O
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Right, testingโฆ
Nvidia shield is plugged in with WiFi connection and VPN connected.
Without the VPN connected
What!!!? ๐ง๐ง๐ง
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Right, testingโฆ
Nvidia shield is plugged in with WiFi connection and VPN connected.
Without the VPN connected
What!!!? ๐ง๐ง๐ง
@JAC said in Virgin router replacement:
What!!!? ๐ง๐ง๐ง
Yes. A VPN will always slow the speed down because it will proxy all traffic upstream to another server. 493Mbps is certainly more than acceptable to that device, and is excellent for Wifi.
I know you use the VPN to gain access to US based TV programs etc, so itโs a must have, but the speed drop is always inevitable.
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With ethernetโฆ
VPN connected
VPN not connected
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@JAC There is absolutely nothing wrong with your setup mate. 878Mbps is a great speed, and youโre going to be hard pushed to top that. Obviously, wired without the VPN is the optimum setting.
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@JAC said in Virgin router replacement:
What!!!? ๐ง๐ง๐ง
Yes. A VPN will always slow the speed down because it will proxy all traffic upstream to another server. 493Mbps is certainly more than acceptable to that device, and is excellent for Wifi.
I know you use the VPN to gain access to US based TV programs etc, so itโs a must have, but the speed drop is always inevitable.
@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
. A VPN will always slow the speed down because it will proxy all traffic upstream to another server. 493Mbps is certainly more than acceptable to that device, and is excellent for Wifi.
I know you use the VPN to gain access to US based TV programs etc, so itโs a must have, but the speed drop is always inevitable.
Thatโs really opened my eyes, I must say!
Very surprised with such low speeds with the VPN running through, is there no way to increase these or is it just pretty much a case of putting up with it? I constantly run the VPN.
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@JAC There is absolutely nothing wrong with your setup mate. 878Mbps is a great speed, and youโre going to be hard pushed to top that. Obviously, wired without the VPN is the optimum setting.
@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with your setup mate. 878Mbps is a great speed, and youโre going to be hard pushed to top that. Obviously, wired without the VPN is the optimum setting.
It is a great speed yes, Iโm happy to finally see them sorts of speeds, however it is without the VPN running.
Should I still go ahead and order / find the powerline adapters to increase the speed upstairs? Of course the tests just done are right next to the router.
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@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
. A VPN will always slow the speed down because it will proxy all traffic upstream to another server. 493Mbps is certainly more than acceptable to that device, and is excellent for Wifi.
I know you use the VPN to gain access to US based TV programs etc, so itโs a must have, but the speed drop is always inevitable.
Thatโs really opened my eyes, I must say!
Very surprised with such low speeds with the VPN running through, is there no way to increase these or is it just pretty much a case of putting up with it? I constantly run the VPN.
@JAC said in Virgin router replacement:
Very surprised with such low speeds with the VPN running through, is there no way to increase these or is it just pretty much a case of putting up with it? I constantly run the VPN.
You donโt have much choice other than to put up with it Iโm afraid. You try other servers in the same region, although youโre probably connecting to a US based server which will add what is called latency to your overall speed. From the UK to the US is typically around 77ms (milliseconds), and whilst that doesnโt sound like much (not even 1/100th of a second) your traffic isnโt the only request and it really depends on how many other connection requests there are at the same time.
Think 3 lanes of traffic on a motorway designed originally for 5 lanes. The speed decrease is the result of that congestion, or perhaps limited by the edge VPN server itself to ensure it is not overwhelmed. Basically, even though you can transmit and receive at high speed, it does not mean the device sending the traffic back will let you receive at that speed as that would hamper the service for everyone else.
Youโll probably see quite an increase in speed if you connect to a local VPN server, although that defeats the object as you need to connect to the US to get access to their streaming services.
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@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with your setup mate. 878Mbps is a great speed, and youโre going to be hard pushed to top that. Obviously, wired without the VPN is the optimum setting.
It is a great speed yes, Iโm happy to finally see them sorts of speeds, however it is without the VPN running.
Should I still go ahead and order / find the powerline adapters to increase the speed upstairs? Of course the tests just done are right next to the router.
@JAC said in Virgin router replacement:
Of course the tests just done are right next to the router.
I would, yes. You wonโt equal that speed because there are other factors at play such as distance of cabling (power and ethernet) and you are reliant on the hardware transmitting the speeds you require. The bottom line is that you need to test with the VPN disabled to get the true speed. I think youโll get close to what you are looking for, and at this point, Iโd hold off the Archer for the time being unless you actually want to go down that route to get even more performance.
One final point is that if you are using Nord VPN, the Archer supports this meaning you can enforce the VPN at the router and all connections will pass over it, so nothing is device dependant.
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@JAC said in Virgin router replacement:
Very surprised with such low speeds with the VPN running through, is there no way to increase these or is it just pretty much a case of putting up with it? I constantly run the VPN.
You donโt have much choice other than to put up with it Iโm afraid. You try other servers in the same region, although youโre probably connecting to a US based server which will add what is called latency to your overall speed. From the UK to the US is typically around 77ms (milliseconds), and whilst that doesnโt sound like much (not even 1/100th of a second) your traffic isnโt the only request and it really depends on how many other connection requests there are at the same time.
Think 3 lanes of traffic on a motorway designed originally for 5 lanes. The speed decrease is the result of that congestion, or perhaps limited by the edge VPN server itself to ensure it is not overwhelmed. Basically, even though you can transmit and receive at high speed, it does not mean the device sending the traffic back will let you receive at that speed as that would hamper the service for everyone else.
Youโll probably see quite an increase in speed if you connect to a local VPN server, although that defeats the object as you need to connect to the US to get access to their streaming services.
@phenomlab thanks for all the information Mark, I appreciate it.
I understand everything you are saying, I use Switzerland, Germany, US to name a few.
Iโve just tested the UK VPN and itโ[censored]ting 157mbps, Germany hits 99mbps at the moment.
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@JAC said in Virgin router replacement:
Of course the tests just done are right next to the router.
I would, yes. You wonโt equal that speed because there are other factors at play such as distance of cabling (power and ethernet) and you are reliant on the hardware transmitting the speeds you require. The bottom line is that you need to test with the VPN disabled to get the true speed. I think youโll get close to what you are looking for, and at this point, Iโd hold off the Archer for the time being unless you actually want to go down that route to get even more performance.
One final point is that if you are using Nord VPN, the Archer supports this meaning you can enforce the VPN at the router and all connections will pass over it, so nothing is device dependant.
@phenomlab said in Virgin router replacement:
I would, yes. You wonโt equal that speed because there are other factors at play such as distance of cabling (power and ethernet) and you are reliant on the hardware transmitting the speeds you require. The bottom line is that you need to test with the VPN disabled to get the true speed. I think youโll get close to what you are looking for, and at this point, Iโd hold off the Archer for the time being unless you actually want to go down that route to get even more performance
Thanks Mark.
Iโll order / find the powerline adapters and go from there, Iโll try sort them first and depending on what happens with them Iโll hold off on the Archer for now.
It does seem to be working thatโs the main thing.
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@JAC I seem to recall us having this discussion before ?
Get the below for the 1Gbps Powerline adapters
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA717-KIT-Powerline-Configuration/dp/B07G37DJ8R/
And the below for the network cables (you obviously want 2)
@phenomlab do you recommend these or the ones I have if I can find them will they be ok?
I do need to order another Ethernet cable.
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