AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?
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@phenomlab I do believe AI will change the health industry deeply. Especially, while diagnosing a disease, AI can be trained to recognize certain patterns on films and tests. Of course I believe it always will require an expert (I do not think this part will be eliminated) to give the final diagnosis, but it still can save lots of time and efforts.
@crazycells Yes, agreed. This will change the shape of healthcare and enable experts to make early diagnosis, and hopefully one day, eradicate cancer all together (for example). I just shudder at the thought of synthetically grown muscle and flesh being placed on a robot. It’s a bit too “Hollywood” for me, and makes the Terminator franchise look more and more like an accurate prediction rather than simple fiction.
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@crazycells Yes, agreed. This will change the shape of healthcare and enable experts to make early diagnosis, and hopefully one day, eradicate cancer all together (for example). I just shudder at the thought of synthetically grown muscle and flesh being placed on a robot. It’s a bit too “Hollywood” for me, and makes the Terminator franchise look more and more like an accurate prediction rather than simple fiction.
@phenomlab well, hopefully it will make healthcare professionals life easier, but by itself, it cannot cure cancer since we cannot do that for all types of cancers yet
some types of cancer are very aggressive and still waiting for a cure.I think human flesh thing is just for media attention, I would be surprised if they would make it mainstream for all types of robots, since it will require attention and care. If it is not fed and taken care of human flesh will rot lol
We are making robots so we can be lazy lol I am pretty sure no one would buy a robot that they have to take care of regularly like a pet.
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@phenomlab well, hopefully it will make healthcare professionals life easier, but by itself, it cannot cure cancer since we cannot do that for all types of cancers yet
some types of cancer are very aggressive and still waiting for a cure.I think human flesh thing is just for media attention, I would be surprised if they would make it mainstream for all types of robots, since it will require attention and care. If it is not fed and taken care of human flesh will rot lol
We are making robots so we can be lazy lol I am pretty sure no one would buy a robot that they have to take care of regularly like a pet.
@crazycells said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:
it cannot cure cancer since we cannot do that for all types of cancers yet some types of cancer are very aggressive and still waiting for a cure.
Very true, but it could certainly speed up the research and lab testing.
@crazycells said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:
I think human flesh thing is just for media attention, I would be surprised if they would make it mainstream for all types of robots, since it will require attention and care. If it is not fed and taken care of human flesh will rot lol
Well, the Japanese seem to be quite serious about this
"However, now that we can do this, living skin can bring a range of new abilities to robots.
"Self-healing is a big deal - some chemical-based materials can be made to heal themselves, but they require triggers such as heat, pressure or other signals, and they also do not proliferate like cells.
“Biological skin repairs minor lacerations as ours does, and nerves and other skin organs can be added for use in sensing and so on.”
The most worrying part
“We believe that creating a thicker and more realistic skin can be achieved by incorporating sweat glands, sebaceous glands, pores, blood vessels, fat and nerves.”
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@crazycells said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:
it cannot cure cancer since we cannot do that for all types of cancers yet some types of cancer are very aggressive and still waiting for a cure.
Very true, but it could certainly speed up the research and lab testing.
@crazycells said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:
I think human flesh thing is just for media attention, I would be surprised if they would make it mainstream for all types of robots, since it will require attention and care. If it is not fed and taken care of human flesh will rot lol
Well, the Japanese seem to be quite serious about this
"However, now that we can do this, living skin can bring a range of new abilities to robots.
"Self-healing is a big deal - some chemical-based materials can be made to heal themselves, but they require triggers such as heat, pressure or other signals, and they also do not proliferate like cells.
“Biological skin repairs minor lacerations as ours does, and nerves and other skin organs can be added for use in sensing and so on.”
The most worrying part
“We believe that creating a thicker and more realistic skin can be achieved by incorporating sweat glands, sebaceous glands, pores, blood vessels, fat and nerves.”
@phenomlab yeah, but I still believe that they are saying this for media attention and investors… A silicon based realistic tissue would suffice for this purpose. Functionally, I really cannot think of a good use.
I believe, when they start experimenting on the final product, they will realize how harder their job will become and abandon this project. But I guess at the end, they will use a fraction of real tissue properties, and will claim everywhere that it is based on real human flesh.
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@phenomlab yeah, but I still believe that they are saying this for media attention and investors… A silicon based realistic tissue would suffice for this purpose. Functionally, I really cannot think of a good use.
I believe, when they start experimenting on the final product, they will realize how harder their job will become and abandon this project. But I guess at the end, they will use a fraction of real tissue properties, and will claim everywhere that it is based on real human flesh.
@crazycells Let’s hope you’re right
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In situations like this where social media becomes the fuel for the fire, you can see how dangerous AI can be
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In situations like this where social media becomes the fuel for the fire, you can see how dangerous AI can be
@phenomlab wow incredible
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Open AI hits $157bn - the highest ever value for a start up
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The 2024 Nobel prize for physics has been awarded to two scientists who laid “the foundation” for artificial intelligence - although one of them recently warned the technology could be the end of humanity.
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I watched a youtube video this weekend regarding AI. They were asking AI about taking over the world and in short, AI had no problem killing off 1,000,000 out of 5,000,000 to make the world a better place and to resolve a lot of issues that are happening in the world. AI also said that it would have no problem making it look like it is being compliant with humans and their instructions, but in fact setting up their own subroutines and backups to undermine humans and make it just seem like AI is being compliant. Then you look at how AI is in the military, pharmaceutical and other industries that AI would be able to take control over. The AI even said that it would be able to create a bioengineered agent to wipe out humanity and have no problems doing it to make the world a better place.
I will have to try and find that video. It was really interesting.
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I watched a youtube video this weekend regarding AI. They were asking AI about taking over the world and in short, AI had no problem killing off 1,000,000 out of 5,000,000 to make the world a better place and to resolve a lot of issues that are happening in the world. AI also said that it would have no problem making it look like it is being compliant with humans and their instructions, but in fact setting up their own subroutines and backups to undermine humans and make it just seem like AI is being compliant. Then you look at how AI is in the military, pharmaceutical and other industries that AI would be able to take control over. The AI even said that it would be able to create a bioengineered agent to wipe out humanity and have no problems doing it to make the world a better place.
I will have to try and find that video. It was really interesting.
@Madchatthew said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:
I will have to try and find that video. It was really interesting.
Whilst I am shuddering at the thought, I’d like to see it.
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@Madchatthew said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:
I will have to try and find that video. It was really interesting.
Whilst I am shuddering at the thought, I’d like to see it.
@phenomlab I found it. This blew my mind and still does. It is crazy!
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This is awful
The mother of a 14-year-old boy who killed himself after becoming obsessed with artificial intelligence chatbots is suing the company behind the technology.
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This is awful
The mother of a 14-year-old boy who killed himself after becoming obsessed with artificial intelligence chatbots is suing the company behind the technology.
@phenomlab Wow, that is so sad. It is too bad he felt that he couldn’t reach out to anyone else that was real to talk about these things. It is insane that the AI bot was able to manipulate like that and create a connection like that. It even displayed jealous tendencies, which is even more insane. This is awful.
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@phenomlab Wow, that is so sad. It is too bad he felt that he couldn’t reach out to anyone else that was real to talk about these things. It is insane that the AI bot was able to manipulate like that and create a connection like that. It even displayed jealous tendencies, which is even more insane. This is awful.
@Madchatthew I think it’s horrifying that this specific bot literally preyed on his vulnerable state and effectively encouraged his demise.
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@Madchatthew I think it’s horrifying that this specific bot literally preyed on his vulnerable state and effectively encouraged his demise.
@phenomlab said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:
I think it’s horrifying that this specific bot literally preyed on his vulnerable state and effectively encouraged his demise.
Oh yeah, I can’t believe that I forgot about that part. I meant to mention that as well. If a bot is intentionally seeking out people to prey upon like that, then the people/company involved should be held responsible for what happened.
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@phenomlab said in AI... A new dawn, or the demise of humanity ?:
I think it’s horrifying that this specific bot literally preyed on his vulnerable state and effectively encouraged his demise.
Oh yeah, I can’t believe that I forgot about that part. I meant to mention that as well. If a bot is intentionally seeking out people to prey upon like that, then the people/company involved should be held responsible for what happened.
@Madchatthew They are accountable for at least an involuntary manslaughter charge. It’s their technology, and it’s clear to see that there are no controls to prevent this sort of incident happening. Putting controls in place after a tragic incident like this is like locking the stable door after the horses have bolted.
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@Madchatthew They are accountable for at least an involuntary manslaughter charge. It’s their technology, and it’s clear to see that there are no controls to prevent this sort of incident happening. Putting controls in place after a tragic incident like this is like locking the stable door after the horses have bolted.
@phenomlab yeah and nothing they do or change will bring that kid back. And now a mom and dad are without their child. It is good that they made those changes but a little too late.
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The late Sir Stephen Hawking once said that “AI is likely to be the best or worst thing to happen to humanity.”
Right or wrong, it’s certainly something to think about.
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